tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post9220845595388072325..comments2023-11-05T05:49:22.093-05:00Comments on The Breda Fallacy: The Bowbredahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00216098318849287384noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-70942909218211345932009-04-09T06:42:00.000-04:002009-04-09T06:42:00.000-04:00Not in my name either. I'm an American and a Chris...Not in my name either. I'm an American and a Christian - I bow to God alone.Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-83091243700650519052009-04-06T13:40:00.000-04:002009-04-06T13:40:00.000-04:00He is just a good little Kenyan Muslim bowing to t...He is just a good little Kenyan Muslim bowing to the one who bought and paid for him,of course he did not bow to The Queen she is the head of The Church of England and a woman<BR/>at that,remember the Koran says it is OK to lie about your religion if it is to your advantage!ajdshootisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17840409483182827616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-85337310501787405902009-04-06T10:29:00.000-04:002009-04-06T10:29:00.000-04:00A slight dipping of the head, like a slow nod is a...A slight dipping of the head, like a slow nod is all the bow anyone will get from me. It is respectful, not demeaning to me. <BR/><BR/>If Barry had dipped much further, I was afraid he was about to "Monica" that third world piece of trash.RickRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-68089954377908601382009-04-06T10:14:00.000-04:002009-04-06T10:14:00.000-04:00New Jovian Thunderbolt said... Take it easy people...New Jovian Thunderbolt said... <BR/>Take it easy people! He can't fellate his majesty from a standing position, he has to do SOMETHING.<BR/><BR/>Ha ha Jovian Thunderbolt. I told my wife when this happened that the man has punk blood, through and through.tjbbpgobIIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12456342500825653657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-63394365879947800422009-04-06T02:03:00.000-04:002009-04-06T02:03:00.000-04:00Now if everyone did it, and this was how heads of ...Now if everyone did it, and this was how heads of state greeted one another all the time, it wouldn't be a thing. So far though it looks like this was an isolated example? So at best he stepped on his own dick, and at worst he kowtowed to a thug. Losing less is still losing.<BR/><BR/>JimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-5734291634604263022009-04-05T23:42:00.000-04:002009-04-05T23:42:00.000-04:00Jamie -The only person REQUIRED to bow to a monarc...Jamie -<BR/><BR/>The only person REQUIRED to bow to a monarch is one of their subjects. <A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702372.html" REL="nofollow">(even those rules are flexible these days - & you might want to look these things up before commenting)</A> I am not one of the Queen's subjects so no, I would not bow or curtsy. I would not bow to the King of Saudi Arabia, nor any other monarch, for the exact same reason. <BR/><BR/>There are other ways of being polite.bredahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216098318849287384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-27923325145620661592009-04-05T23:13:00.000-04:002009-04-05T23:13:00.000-04:00In Asia, everyone bows. To everyone else. You woul...In Asia, everyone bows. To everyone else. <BR/><BR/>You wouldn't bow to the Head of State of the United Kingdom? Do you think she doesn't know your citizenship and your status as a free person? What could you lose by being rude?<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't bow to the King of Saudi Arabia because it would be my intention to show him deliberate disrespect. To insult him.<BR/><BR/>If you have a reason to show deliberate disrespect to the Queen or the state she represents- and those reasons do exist- then I respect your position. But to say "I don't bow, no matter YOUR custom" is just to say, "my customs are superior to yours". On the other hand, if that's what you actually mean, fine.Jamiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478497034748079468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-50986932914293904672009-04-05T15:38:00.000-04:002009-04-05T15:38:00.000-04:00"I met a man of very good property a few days...<I>"I met a man of very good property a few days ago who had a Complaint to make and I refer'd him to Lord Percy. I heard him enquire at his Lordships door for Mr. Percy. Thinking him Ignorant I stept up & told him again "Lord Percy". He replied to be he knew no Lord but the Lord Jehovah. Thus it is throughout America and a sad set of Presbyterian Rascals they are ..."</I><BR/><BR/>Captain John Bowater, quoted in "Redcoats and Rebels", by Christopher Hibbert.jdegehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01495457567906071678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-548268424307978232009-04-05T15:29:00.000-04:002009-04-05T15:29:00.000-04:00Take it easy people! He can't fellate his majesty...Take it easy people! He can't fellate his majesty from a standing position, he has to do SOMETHING.New Jovian Thunderbolthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09452246769246304612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-29637612104078666692009-04-05T11:23:00.000-04:002009-04-05T11:23:00.000-04:00Awesome post Breda! I get sick of all the monarch ...Awesome post Breda! I get sick of all the monarch worship that some Americans engage in, as if they wish we had never left behind that barbaric practice of putting one person above others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-33469144285989411322009-04-05T11:08:00.000-04:002009-04-05T11:08:00.000-04:00James -But it certainly is nice to be able to choo...James -<BR/><BR/>But it certainly is nice to be able to choose whether or not to bow, no?<BR/><BR/>And so, I choose not to, as is my right.<BR/><BR/>I only wish our President had had the wisdom to do the same.bredahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216098318849287384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-46175716197818565782009-04-05T06:29:00.000-04:002009-04-05T06:29:00.000-04:00I can understand Americans being reluctant to cour...I can understand Americans being reluctant to courtsey to HMQ, you are a bunch of rebels after all :-) But despite what some socialists might claim, to bow or courtsey to the monarch is simply a mark of respect to his or her position as head of state. On that basis I'd probably give the President the nod on first meeting, not that it's ever going to happen.<BR/><BR/>But you are right about one thing: not even Her Maj merits the sort of kowtowing Obama gave King Abdullah.The Remittance Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104149259707414863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-7353773467109493682009-04-05T03:17:00.000-04:002009-04-05T03:17:00.000-04:00+1 Breda+1 BredaWarthoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507247914387544169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-75809524996709414382009-04-05T01:35:00.000-04:002009-04-05T01:35:00.000-04:00Mmmmm. Mebbe because Miz Liz was a WOMAN and Abdu...Mmmmm. Mebbe because Miz Liz was a WOMAN and Abdulla was a MAN might have something to do with it, revealing Light-Bringer™ 's true feelings, being a closet Mooslimb and all.<BR/><BR/>In any case, either he didn't listen to his protocol advisor, or else said advisor deserves a serious beat-down.rickn8ornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-64238678871478289262009-04-05T01:34:00.000-04:002009-04-05T01:34:00.000-04:00"I am an American. I bow to no one."I'm not so sur...<I>"I am an American. I bow to no one."</I><BR/><BR/>I'm not so sure that I agree, Breda.<BR/><BR/>Oh, I agree that Obama's genuflection in front of the King is way over the top. It indicates, to me at least, a willingness to submit that I simply do not share. The President represents the country and the citizens who live here, and I really think he screwed up in sending this message.<BR/><BR/>But never to bow? That seems to be taking things a bit too far.<BR/><BR/>Remember that I, also, am an American. Joe pointed out above that you are an armed American, but so am I. And I have a great deal of pride in what I have accomplished. Even so, I have been known to bow on occasion.<BR/><BR/>It is just good manners. Common courtesy in some cultures. I would bow to my opponent in the dojo. I have been known to bow to women when first introduced. It wouldn't be too far off the mark to say that I'd even bow if presented to a head of state, if for nothing else to show respect to the station he holds and the people he represents.<BR/><BR/>So while I certainly wouldn't genuflect, kow-tow, or prostrate myself, I would bow. I've done it in the past, and I will probably do it in the future. There are times it is just good manners to be willing to bend a little.<BR/><BR/>JamesJames R. Rummelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04682353191833690442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-77637502825554403942009-04-04T22:04:00.000-04:002009-04-04T22:04:00.000-04:00Not in my name. I am an ARMED & FREE American....Not in my name. I am an ARMED & FREE American. I bow to no one. <BR/><BR/>there fixed it for yah!{since they seem to let any wussy moron be an american now, it needs to be specified{;>).)Joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-66344876498661465802009-04-04T21:26:00.000-04:002009-04-04T21:26:00.000-04:00You guys don't get it.That wasn't a bow at all. He...You guys don't get it.<BR/>That wasn't a bow at all. <BR/>He dropped the Teleprompter and had to get closer to read what it said.pique Oilhttp://www.frenemy.co.nznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-42955800254296096082009-04-04T20:22:00.000-04:002009-04-04T20:22:00.000-04:00It made me almost physically ill. The political r...It made me almost physically ill. The political ramifications are staggering and to have the President of the United States bow to such a man is abhorrent. <BR/><BR/>I agree, not in my name!Midwest Chickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17296327673871169304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-73541155873310936192009-04-04T20:17:00.000-04:002009-04-04T20:17:00.000-04:00"For the American President to bow to anyone..."Th..."For the American President to bow to anyone..."<BR/><BR/>The King is not anyone! The King is the Protector of Medina and Mecca.<BR/><BR/>Who said that Heads of State are equal? Where is that in the Quran?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-36760106674126418512009-04-04T20:10:00.000-04:002009-04-04T20:10:00.000-04:00Heads of State should not bow or anything else to ...Heads of State should not bow or anything else to each other. They are supposedly equal. For the American President to bow to anyone...means America bows on the world stage.Josephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-39707772094933748002009-04-04T19:16:00.000-04:002009-04-04T19:16:00.000-04:00Geez, you guys. All Barry is doing to just a refl...Geez, you guys. All Barry is doing to just a reflex from his childhood madrassa training in Indonesia. Geez, lighten up.<BR/><BR/>The King of Saudi Arabia is the Protector of Medina and Mecca. Why wouldn't Barry bow to his highness?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-80856793386146907282009-04-04T17:33:00.000-04:002009-04-04T17:33:00.000-04:00This guy is out of his depth.This guy is out of his depth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-30203600086146784972009-04-04T17:27:00.000-04:002009-04-04T17:27:00.000-04:00Alan- "I think there's more going on there."It's a...Alan- "I think there's more going on there."<BR/><BR/><BR/>It's about Kenya:<BR/><BR/>http://www.luoamerican.com/baldilocks/<BR/>2009/03/vengeance-is-his.htmlMad Saint Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-33938260884542683042009-04-04T17:04:00.000-04:002009-04-04T17:04:00.000-04:00You are SO right. "Better to die on your feet, th...You are SO right. "Better to die on your feet, than...". I'm sure you can fill in the blank.....The Old Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09854776544931267722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-91475060298639141822009-04-04T16:42:00.000-04:002009-04-04T16:42:00.000-04:00It's a sad day when the "OMG BARRRACK IS A CLOSET ...It's a sad day when the "OMG BARRRACK IS A CLOSET MOOSELIMB!!" types are seemingly vindicated..<BR/><BR/>Like the fortune cookie said... "May you live in interesting times"Heath Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16176723284131320506noreply@blogger.com