tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post5693576656607972694..comments2023-11-05T05:49:22.093-05:00Comments on The Breda Fallacy: watchlist*bredahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00216098318849287384noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-75491333207498664042009-02-26T18:49:00.000-05:002009-02-26T18:49:00.000-05:00Mike's response is classically a turn off. Hostil...Mike's response is classically a turn off. Hostile and confrontational. I won't even dignify it with a response. <BR/><BR/>Thank you Ben Ezra for your rational response and polite response. I'll be happy to check out the article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-59828334693381865092009-02-24T10:57:00.000-05:002009-02-24T10:57:00.000-05:00"My only issue is that I do not understand wh..."My only issue is that I do not understand why people need assault weapons, but that does not mean that I want guns banned, although I originally favored an assault weapons ban."<BR/><BR/>It's not about "need." Why do you "need" a computer and a blog? Maybe we should ban those and you can go back to using pen & paper to express yourself.<BR/><BR/>You say you "don't want guns banned" then say you "originally favored an AWB." If you support a BAN, then it'd logically follow that you want guns banned.<BR/><BR/>Why do you support banning "assault weapons?" Do you know what they are? Do you support banning "assault speech" too, merely because you think it might be scary or dangerous?Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-13654913458258853602009-02-22T14:03:00.000-05:002009-02-22T14:03:00.000-05:00cmacivor,"Assault weapon" is gun-ban-lobby-speak f...cmacivor,<BR/><BR/>"Assault weapon" is gun-ban-lobby-speak for the most popular non-automatic civilian rifles in the United States. They dominate recreational and competitive centerfire target shooting in the USA, and are by far the most common defensive carbines in U.S. homes.<BR/><BR/>Proposed bans on "assault weapons" are very much like bans on "subversive speech" aimed at stifling political expression. The term is intended to shut down critical thought and provoke a response based on fear or anger rather than reason, and to make draconian restrictions seem reasonable.<BR/><BR/>More Americans lawfully own so-called "assault weapons", as defined by H.R.1022 et seq, than hunt. And given that all rifles combined account for only 3% of U.S. murders, they are hardly a menace to society. But banning the most lawfully owned guns is the raison d'etre of the U.S. gun-control lobby, and the "assault weapon" fraud is a means to that end.<BR/><BR/>Further reading, if you're interested, that may give you an idea where we're coming from:<BR/><BR/>http://journals.democraticunderground.com/benEzra/1<BR/><BR/>http://www.tribtalk.com/showthread.php?t=16466Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-23814896722036803022009-02-17T02:44:00.000-05:002009-02-17T02:44:00.000-05:00What you are suggesting is really a non sequitor. ...What you are suggesting is really a non sequitor. Not all liberals want gun control. Most of my progressive friends do not want any. I get distressed when I hear about all of the gun violence, and an assault weapons ban has some appeal, but it is rather low on the list. So low in fact i have never checked anyone's voting record on that issue prior to voting.<BR/><BR/>MY father and my brother have / have had guns. I have been shooting with my brother. I would go again because i enjoyed it.<BR/><BR/>My only issue is that I do not understand why people need assault weapons, but that does not mean that I want guns banned, although I originally favored an assault weapons ban.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-1436470466564761672009-02-15T11:22:00.000-05:002009-02-15T11:22:00.000-05:00Thirdly, choosing a candidate because of one issue...<I>Thirdly, choosing a candidate because of one issue is silly.</I><BR/><BR/>I'm a little late to the party, but tell us, Dmitri, how many issues does it take to be serious? Does this look about right?<BR/><BR/>1 = Silly<BR/>2 = Fluffy<BR/>3 = Light hearted<BR/>4 = Concerned<BR/>5 = Semi-serious<BR/>6 = Serious<BR/>7 = Dead serious<BR/>8 = Don't f*** with me!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-49783165504828662402009-02-12T22:07:00.000-05:002009-02-12T22:07:00.000-05:00I imagine you're thinking of former TX state Rep. ...I imagine you're thinking of former TX state Rep. Suzanna Hupp, who watched as her parents were gunned down in Luby's Cafeteria, because her gun, in accordance with Texas law at the time, was left in her car, leaving her unable to defend them.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-32095383127066796252009-02-12T21:22:00.000-05:002009-02-12T21:22:00.000-05:00So far as single-issue voting, I can't remember wh...So far as single-issue voting, I can't remember who said that the stand of a politician on the 2nd Amendment tells you what they think of you: whether you're an adult citizen capable of acting responsibly, or whether he thinks you're a peasant too stupid or untrustworthy to be allowed to make your own decisions.Firehandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562365951182027709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-16713514289720755732009-02-11T06:57:00.000-05:002009-02-11T06:57:00.000-05:00Reason I got my carry permit.On the Seattle side o...Reason I got my carry permit.<BR/>On the Seattle side of the state there's a person with my exact name. He has 7 charges of assaulting a police officer, and then he whines in court that the cops pick on him because he's black.<BR/>NICS will always make me wait a week to even pick up a rifle, because of this winner. <BR/><BR/>I don't even want to meet the John B on the no fly list!John Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04875185117306503147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-88109839461502798352009-02-10T20:04:00.000-05:002009-02-10T20:04:00.000-05:00I don't know who originally said this (it is u...I don't know who originally said this (it is usually cited as "Arabian proverb," but has also been attributed to both Lao-tzu and Bruce Lee), but I think it may be applicable here:<BR/><BR/>"There are four sorts of men:<BR/><BR/>"He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not; he is a fool, shun him.<BR/><BR/>"He who knows not, and knows that he knows not; he is simple, teach him.<BR/><BR/>"He who knows, and knows not that he knows; he is asleep, wake him.<BR/><BR/>"He who knows, and knows that he knows; he is wise, follow him."<BR/><BR/>(Quoted in William Shepard Walsh, _Handy-Book of Literary Curiosities_ (Philadelphia: J. B. Lippincott, 1909), 593, http://books.google.com/books?id=hrJkAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA593)<BR/><BR/>In my experience, if someone is willing to go to the range with you, or rationally discuss the issue with you without sticking their fingers in their ears and saying "lalalala" or refusing to face facts, they are probably in the second category above. Teach them. Some will learn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-42760553340184809202009-02-10T17:32:00.000-05:002009-02-10T17:32:00.000-05:00November 2008 was the first time I voted Republica...November 2008 was the first time I voted Republican (not just my vote for President, but pretty much across the board) since I registered to vote in 1987. The Second Amendment issues weren't my only reason, but they were far from the least reason why I've jumped the fence. Most of the Democrats who were on my November ballot scared the hell out of me. Makes me want to get a concealed carry permit while I still can.Jeanne Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12684695145962482139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-35448041204797143082009-02-10T02:57:00.000-05:002009-02-10T02:57:00.000-05:00The text over the comment input box reads "Be poli...The text over the comment input box reads "Be polite, please." That's difficult when commenting about this lying anti-freedom power-grabbing statist who has just been elevated on my own disgusting persons list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-4234683176126383352009-02-10T02:26:00.000-05:002009-02-10T02:26:00.000-05:00A candidate's stand on the 2nd Amendment is an exc...A candidate's stand on the 2nd Amendment is an excellent barometer of their place on other issues. Since the One has virtually no voting record to look at we kinda have to go with what we do have.<BR/><BR/>A pro-gun candidate will almost always take the side of personal responsibility whatever the issue.<BR/><BR/>Anti-gunners will almost always be in favor of the nanny-state.tanksoldierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04160316039546071989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-35651309206406745802009-02-09T18:39:00.000-05:002009-02-09T18:39:00.000-05:00I'd like to know where this idiot gets his statist...I'd like to know where this idiot gets his statistics on homicide and violent crime rates.<BR/><BR/>It sure as hell isn't from any valid, scientific study of the available data.<BR/><BR/>You can't cure stupid. It's born in a lot of Democrats and other such Liberal folks.<BR/><BR/>A very few have life altering events that make them see the light but it is rare. I'd say impossible in this idiots case.<BR/><BR/>JoeAssrothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14093506505019819353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-79339078048102284872009-02-09T18:30:00.000-05:002009-02-09T18:30:00.000-05:00Here in Southwest Ohio, our notorious sheriff has ...Here in Southwest Ohio, our notorious sheriff has closed one jail due to 'lack of funding' and has laid off a rather large portion of his force. Hence, our jails are overcrowded, and criminals are being given 'deferred sentencing' until jail space is freed up for them---"go home, and come back to serve your sentence on such-and-such date" !! <BR/>It doesn't take a criminal mastermind to know how THAT is turning out.<BR/>I am on the verge, I really am, of just shrugging my shoulders and embracing (or at least resignedly accepting) the title 'criminal'. The LAWS changed, not right nor wrong, nor me.B Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11820065559822788663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-59225977167493044912009-02-09T16:16:00.000-05:002009-02-09T16:16:00.000-05:00It's very telling that on the Whitehouse.gov websi...It's very telling that on the Whitehouse.gov website, when you look at the Bill of Rights section, it says this:<BR/><BR/>"The Second Amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms."<BR/><BR/>Check again, you power grubbing assholes. The 2nd Amendment doesn't GIVE us anything. It PROTECTS our right to bear arms.<BR/><BR/>I never in my wildest dreams thought I'd ever actually fear for the future of the Republic. I honestly wonder if we can recover from the damage being done by Obama and his minions.janahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13572309711791086228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-77860982183410762142009-02-09T13:47:00.000-05:002009-02-09T13:47:00.000-05:00The thing is, those are RIGHTS, period. They haven...The thing is, those are RIGHTS, period. They haven't done anything to legally lose them. <BR/><BR/>That list is so befuddled, you will be taking the RIGHTS away from thousands of people whose only crime is to have a similar name. <BR/><BR/>A friend of mine has been picked up by the cops twice because a guy down the road from him is a two-bit crook with a similar name. They don't look alike, they are not the same age. The name just flags & here comes Barney Fife & company. <BR/><BR/>I have a very common name, I sure as hell don't want to have my RIGHTS violated every time some moron can't tell the difference between me and the crook/terrorist down the steet.<BR/><BR/>Just another stupid idea to make it look like they are doing their jobs as they spend the country into ruin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-590726733368666942009-02-09T13:26:00.000-05:002009-02-09T13:26:00.000-05:00That brings to mind a simple question:What *other*...That brings to mind a simple question:<BR/><BR/>What *other* rights should someone whose name appears on the no-fly list be deprived of, without due process of law, burden of proof for placement, or legal recourse for removal?<BR/><BR/>Remember, these people are (or are named the same as people who are) so dangerous that they are neither allowed to own a firearm or fly on an airplane! I think it's a reasonable expectation that if they are that dangerous they don't need to mix with society.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-78451422867292643152009-02-09T12:51:00.000-05:002009-02-09T12:51:00.000-05:00For the unborn, one particular issue isn't silly ....For the unborn, one particular issue isn't <I>silly</I> ... it's the <B>only</B> issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-42104223074015508172009-02-09T09:58:00.000-05:002009-02-09T09:58:00.000-05:00My experience is that if people don't understand t...My experience is that if people don't understand the 2nd Amendment issue, they don't understand any of it.<BR/> One issue tells you all you need to know. And that's not just me being stupid.<BR/><BR/> Yes, partisanship is retarded. I wish Obama and the Democrats would wise up.Robert Langhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16497658569363397644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-63896863641623657842009-02-09T01:48:00.000-05:002009-02-09T01:48:00.000-05:00Firstly, not all liberals are pro gun control.Seco...Firstly, not all liberals are pro gun control.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, partisanship is retarded.<BR/><BR/>Thirdly, choosing a candidate because of one issue is silly.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08944508454040831350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-19523168893275681542009-02-08T22:37:00.000-05:002009-02-08T22:37:00.000-05:00Breda, I believe you are action on emotion and fai...Breda, I believe you are action on emotion and fail to understand that the ignorant and ill educated are not the enemies. To paraphrase” Please forgive them because they do not see”. The Rahm Emmanuel’s of the world have only the same power that each one of us have, the ability to persuade. If you leave the field to him he shall have the power you choose not to use.<BR/><BR/>So do not hold against the Obama voters because gun rights were not that important to them. There are many important issues and I / you do not have the right to declare that everyone shares our important issue.<BR/><BR/>You can change the ideas and emotions about guns with your one-person/ shooting range education plan. Think of it as compound interest. Each person educated and who becomes an enthusiast and later brings along others to become educated and enthusiast has a compound result that you cannot see at the stage.<BR/><BR/>You can make a difference and so do all the other gunnies that have taken up your idea to take one anti and fearful one to the range and indoctrinate the newbie into the joys and issues of gun rights.<BR/><BR/><BR/>RAHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-396923541950166112009-02-08T16:52:00.000-05:002009-02-08T16:52:00.000-05:00Breda,As a fellow Ohioan and a conservative firear...Breda,<BR/><BR/>As a fellow Ohioan and a conservative firearms owner, I ask you to reconsider. Most of those liberal anti-gun voting people are just ignorant. Ignorant of history, ignorant of politics and ignorant about the liberal propoganda machine called the mainstream media.<BR/><BR/>My wife was scared of guns and an anti when I first met her. The first time she came to my house, she backed out of the bedroom faster than she entered when she saw the 12 ga. shotgun leaning in the corner.<BR/><BR/>Three years ago she was working at a firearms distributor and bout bouth of our girls 22 rifles. She doesn't shoot a lot but, she now understands the lies of the liberals and has changed sides.<BR/><BR/>Never give up an opportunity to educate someone. It is the only way we can survive the liberal slant that everyone gets from the media and our educational system.<BR/><BR/>Take a liberal shooting today and plant the seeds of a new conservative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-79364430262937340912009-02-08T14:35:00.000-05:002009-02-08T14:35:00.000-05:00confirmed May 2007.i'm sure ram is more nuanced an...confirmed May 2007.<BR/><BR/>i'm sure ram is more nuanced and realistic NOW....New Jovian Thunderbolthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09452246769246304612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-72896765216978537972009-02-08T07:50:00.000-05:002009-02-08T07:50:00.000-05:00'Kay--thanks, Tam.'Kay--thanks, Tam.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-1480622786706241272009-02-08T07:41:00.000-05:002009-02-08T07:41:00.000-05:0045Superman,"Does anyone know when Rahm The Thug de...45Superman,<BR/><BR/>"<I>Does anyone know when Rahm The Thug delievered that speech?<BR/><BR/>Not that it really matters--I'm just curious.</I>"<BR/><BR/>I believe it dates to 2007.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.com