tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post732687951952105659..comments2023-11-05T05:49:22.093-05:00Comments on The Breda Fallacy: Cooked* - Appleseed pt. 3bredahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00216098318849287384noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-69361699889439645222008-08-28T19:59:00.000-04:002008-08-28T19:59:00.000-04:00Keep going to the Appleseed shoots. Work hard at ...Keep going to the Appleseed shoots. Work hard at it and eventually you can become an instructor yourself. You will have empathy for the folks on the line and know the frustration they are feeling and be able to tell (and show them) what they are capable of if only they persist. The fact that you are a "Tough Chick" will add further incentive for other women to do what you have done. KudosAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-73428967009166943072008-08-28T10:01:00.000-04:002008-08-28T10:01:00.000-04:00Straightarrow: Where in SW AR is is you're coming...Straightarrow: Where in SW AR is is you're coming from? There's Appleseed planned in Yellville AR, and several in surrounding states... <BR/><BR/>Heck, find a place to shoot, get some friends interested in coming, and we'll come to you!<BR/><BR/>Breda:<BR/>Way to go! Good shooting, and thanks for generating some good conversation on the Appleseed program!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-54889280522136352882008-08-28T00:35:00.000-04:002008-08-28T00:35:00.000-04:00I would love to do an Appleseed, but I don't think...I would love to do an Appleseed, but I don't think I can manage it from sw ar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-5118306575443358702008-08-28T00:22:00.000-04:002008-08-28T00:22:00.000-04:00Breda, I learned to shoot .22LR with a sling 45 ye...Breda, I learned to shoot .22LR with a sling 45 years ago shooting every school weekend at my local high school range. I've shot prairie dogs with a heavy barrel .222 Remington and high-power scope as a hobby for twenty years. That said, I don't think I'd have done as good as you did with only iron sights and a 10/22 at those long ranges.<BR/><BR/>You are a natural shooter and I am just plain jealous. As others said, you'll be an instructor soon. Not to become one is to waste a lot of God given talen.Chris Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12730570977897344874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-78053952979680048342008-08-28T00:21:00.000-04:002008-08-28T00:21:00.000-04:00The cheeseburger padding thing will only make it w...The cheeseburger padding thing will only make it worse. Especially in the prone position. Trust me, I tried it. It is very difficult to hold on the target when your body is rocking heel to forehead against the ground around your belly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-17594416115406694212008-08-27T23:14:00.000-04:002008-08-27T23:14:00.000-04:00@ Glenn Bartley:Do they require a semi auto rifle,...@ Glenn Bartley:<BR/><I>Do they require a semi auto rifle, or would a Mosin Nagant do?</I><BR/><BR/>Appleseed is very much a "run whatcha brung" affair. Semi-autos are easier to work with, but certainly not required. I'm not super-familiar with M-N rifles; if they are detachable-magazine fed, make sure you've got a couple of mags. If they're stripper-clip-fed, you may have trouble with the time firing courses... but the instructors are always happy to help in any way they can.<BR/><BR/>Also, keep in mind that you will be firing 400-600 rounds over the course of two days... that can be a heavy ammo bill and a heck of a bruise on the shoulder, but that's entirely your decision. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-60806608232251943732008-08-27T23:03:00.000-04:002008-08-27T23:03:00.000-04:00Very Interesting. I may have to attend one of thes...Very Interesting. I may have to attend one of these Appleseed Shoots. Do they require a semi auto rifle, or would a Mosin Nagant do?Glenn Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16677859688487279914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-77486032849090984052008-08-27T21:57:00.000-04:002008-08-27T21:57:00.000-04:00You guys are great. You're also the reason we'll ...You guys are great. You're also the reason we'll eventually win. The people on the other side are opposed to true freedom, but they're not willing to work to suppress it half as hard as people like you are ready and willing to work protect it.<BR/><BR/>It's an honor to be on your side.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-66395055331943422652008-08-27T21:49:00.000-04:002008-08-27T21:49:00.000-04:0045Superman, I'll echo Dwarven, but I'll twist it a...45Superman, I'll echo Dwarven, but I'll twist it a little bit... if you make it to upstate NY, or I happen to make it out to the midwest again, I'd be delighted to spend a day on the range with you, one to one, working on Appleseed techniques... Just say the word.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-31825868991850197222008-08-27T21:33:00.000-04:002008-08-27T21:33:00.000-04:00Dwarven, your encouragement is much appreciated, b...Dwarven, your encouragement is <B>much</B> appreciated, believe me, but the number of physical issues I would be dealing with (little to no control/strength/sensation in the lower torso, extreme discomfort after more than a few consecutive hours in the chair, etc.) would , I think, make it impractical. I also think that the effort that would be expended trying to accommodate me would be unfair to the other participants.<BR/><BR/>I hope to find a useful role to play in the defense of liberty, but rifleman won't be it, my wishes to the contrary notwithstanding. I <I>am</I> a decent cook, however ;-).<BR/><BR/>I can't really even manage a long gun, to be honest, although when I get the 6.5mm Grendel upper receiver for <A HREF="http://armedandsafe.blogspot.com/2008/08/dreaded-50-caliber-assault-pistol.html" REL="nofollow">this bad puppy</A>, I hope to do some work on "the rifleman's quarter mile."<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for your kindness and encouragment.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-70684382655002066042008-08-27T20:43:00.000-04:002008-08-27T20:43:00.000-04:00Breda, I see some definite improvement in those Re...Breda, I see some definite improvement in those Redcoats! Believe me, after three Appleseeds I know that towards the end of the day my grouping opens up - when I get that exhausted and sore it's tough to keep the groups tight. But persist, and I'm sure that you'll get that coveted Rifleman patch!<BR/><BR/>Hey, you're way ahead of Jay G... I STILL can't get him to come to an AS, in spite of a personal invitation. Maybe I'll have him over to my next cookout... as the cook.<BR/><BR/>45Superman, why not come to an AS? I understand that you will NOT be the first shooter at one in a wheelchair. We work with you to figure out what works for you.<BR/><BR/>Our real purpose is to wake up our slumbering fellow countrymen... this is just how we do it. I feel sure that if you do come to a shoot, the only emotion you will be evoking is respect - <I>I</I> would certainly respect someone who won't let a wheelchair slow him down! (pun unintentional!)<BR/><BR/>Ross - Appleseed Instructor In Training.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-11065949616218035362008-08-27T18:12:00.000-04:002008-08-27T18:12:00.000-04:00I used a sling from the outset, that is just how I...I used a sling from the outset, that is just how I was trained on the Garand. It took quite a while before I could afford a jacket, and longer for a scope. I had never-ever shot a rifle before 2001.<BR/>But a sling on bare flesh just doesn't work for me, and I've watched it also not-work for our adult-age new-shooters who come wearing a t-shirt. IMO it's potentially more harmful than useful, and I'm not even sure that a sling benefits a 10/22 except psychologically - as long as its not intrusive and debilitating, "Do no Harm," and all that.<BR/>Perhaps we need to update <A HREF="http://www.zouaves.org/faq.htm" REL="nofollow">our FAQ</A> to include more about what new-shooters should bring and wear - but the thing is with Adults, they come dressed as they please anyhow and don't make any changes until some hot brass lands on their neck. And every first Saturday of the Month they come.<BR/>Children are easier to teach and instill good habits, every second Saturday they also come - and with their Moms - they shoot free. It's in our charter.NotClauswitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14358707844087117280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-9711663267467484492008-08-27T13:46:00.000-04:002008-08-27T13:46:00.000-04:00Breda, You did very well. Remember, this was a lo...Breda, <BR/><BR/>You did very well. Remember, this was a lot of firsts for you, all while under a lot of physical stress.<BR/>For you to push on even not feeling well, didn't go unnoticed by the folks there. <BR/><BR/>Any takers on how long it will be before Breda is one of the instructors? :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-67318380554569166882008-08-27T13:40:00.000-04:002008-08-27T13:40:00.000-04:00dirtcrashrappleseed is set up so that you don't n...dirtcrashr<BR/><BR/>appleseed is set up so that you don't need to have all the high power stuff to come and learn...it's a come as you are program designed to give a shooter the skill to hit 4MOA with their rifle thats it. There are many other courses one can take after appleseed and that is great to do for sure. Appleseed is a super "feeder" program that gets it's participants interested in new things be they NRA high power or small bore or something else.Most importantly it gets people behind rifles no matter the skill level. <BR/><BR/>As far as instilling bad habits..the whip I used on the shooting line prevented that.. you usually only have to hit them once.....lol..just kidding of course<BR/><BR/>PBposterboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04947208701683569662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-14849576648062695702008-08-27T13:21:00.000-04:002008-08-27T13:21:00.000-04:00IMO the sling works best with a shooting jacket an...IMO the sling works best with a shooting jacket and can actually be detrimental on bare flesh - it's one of the first things I bought. Also IMO 8-hours is enough time to introduce fatigue and bad-habits, and deplete the euphoria of success - it's important to have that. Some people like to push against a brick wall and go "Arrgh!" but to me it's not that conducive-to or analogous to the stepping-stones you need to have and build-on. We do the .22 shooting introduction a bit differently at my club, then for the buff and macho older New Shooters we step it up to M1 Garands and a real 200-yards.<BR/>It's all good though if it doesn't introduce heartbreak, pain, and Fail - you can't fit 10lbs in a 5lb sack.NotClauswitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14358707844087117280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-52705516953678976402008-08-27T04:16:00.000-04:002008-08-27T04:16:00.000-04:00Breda, I would bet that in 6-12 months you will be...Breda, I would bet that in 6-12 months you will be teaching others rifle marksmanship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-57345059522755810252008-08-27T01:02:00.000-04:002008-08-27T01:02:00.000-04:00kaveman- That is an excellant pointer.There's many...kaveman- That is an excellant pointer.<BR/>There's many variables that come into play, when we shoot outdoors.<BR/><BR/>But that's what makes it even more interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-6067533783726526262008-08-27T00:53:00.000-04:002008-08-27T00:53:00.000-04:00The Rifle or Pistol is an extention of ones sight ...The Rifle or Pistol is an extention of ones sight or in many folks cases. Your dominant eye.<BR/><BR/>Believe it or not. <BR/>If you concentrate long/hard enough. You can make the bullet strike the target, where you are looking without aimimnig down the sight plain.<BR/>Just remember. You are putting the Bullet where YOU want it.<BR/>Or your brain is telling you to put it.<BR/>Nice Job Breda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-17291578206485669272008-08-27T00:24:00.000-04:002008-08-27T00:24:00.000-04:00Marine recruits spend a week dry firing a rifle fr...Marine recruits spend a week dry firing a rifle from allof those positions before ever firing a shot. When the shooting actually begins, they shoot for 4 days before qual day. <BR/><BR/>Nobody can learn it all in the first day. I still learn something every time I sling a rifle from an unsupported position.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-8123736037428070392008-08-26T21:50:00.000-04:002008-08-26T21:50:00.000-04:00Breda,Just a couple of comments:Ex-marines are tho...Breda,<BR/><BR/>Just a couple of comments:<BR/><BR/>Ex-marines are those booted out of the Corps with a dishonorable discharge. The rest are all FORMER Marines.<BR/><BR/>Even a very light jacket (even one of those things you girls wear with 2/3 sleeves and 1/3 length body (shrug, I might have heard them called) would have protected your sling arm and possibly held in a little more sweat to help keep you cooler. Even an old ripstop cotton BDY blouse might have helped some with this.<BR/><BR/>And a question:<BR/><BR/>Did you manage to get hold of an AR15? Some guys were going to make the offer since I got shut out on making the shoot, but I don't know if any one did or not, or if you felt like taking them up on it.<BR/><BR/>I am very sorry I didn't make the shoot, after I helped talk you into going. Sounds like you had an enjoyable time, over all, once you can look at it from a little distance?<BR/><BR/>Make sure you use all you new knowledge the next time you take the rifle to the range and use anything applicable for pistol shooting any time you get a chance also.<BR/><BR/>Even think about Canton/Minerva this fall, remember that women shoot free through the end of the year.<BR/><BR/>BuckshotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-32980085823406466182008-08-26T20:48:00.000-04:002008-08-26T20:48:00.000-04:00You're pretty amazing, Breda.I'm almost sufficient...You're pretty amazing, Breda.<BR/><BR/>I'm <I>almost</I> sufficiently inspired to see about trying it in my wheelchair. Not quite, but almost.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-40650993036405206352008-08-26T18:28:00.000-04:002008-08-26T18:28:00.000-04:00Warrior Queen Madam Boudica:I am exceptionally pro...Warrior Queen Madam Boudica:<BR/>I am exceptionally proud of you. If it were easy, girls would be doing it. <BR/>Your muscles are learning to do new things. They will develop a memory for the correct positions. Your brain will work over the new knowledge and find cubbyholes to keep it in. You will mull over your experience over the next days and weeks and with a little bit of dry firing each day, you will become an American Rifleman.<BR/>In America, we get up in the morning, go to work, and solve our problems.Willorithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17821198126724679879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-87489359791005755882008-08-26T17:11:00.000-04:002008-08-26T17:11:00.000-04:00That final redcoat is nothing to be ashamed of!Wha...That final redcoat is nothing to be ashamed of!<BR/><BR/>What we usually see is groups tightening up through the early afternoon on Saturday, then starting to widen back out as environment and exertion take their toll.<BR/><BR/>Sunday morning, when people are back with some rest and some Advil, those groups are *tight*.<BR/><BR/>The groups themselves look good, the only question left is this: are your sights off an inch or two, or did you forget to check your NPOA? If you can answer that question, then you're more than halfway to your Rifleman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-30069932577641009772008-08-26T17:00:00.000-04:002008-08-26T17:00:00.000-04:00They do the Mad Minute at Appleseed?They do the Mad Minute at Appleseed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32278169577563552.post-4722583388476575842008-08-26T16:54:00.000-04:002008-08-26T16:54:00.000-04:00Well, you may shoot like a girl, but you kick my b...Well, you may shoot like a girl, but you kick my butt on the range. And not everyone can be Sergeant Instructor Snoxall, after all.<BR/><BR/>http://www.google.com/search?q=Sergeant+Instructor+Snoxall<BR/><BR/>Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go fry a chicken. In a skillet. Yes, it's cast iron.<BR/><BR/>;-)Borepatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029434172945099693noreply@blogger.com